15: Chris Tatem on listening to the political divide

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In September 2016, Chris Tatem (Cross Examined Life podcast) was in a hospital waiting room when the sound of the television became incredibly loud and all he could focus on was the two political pundits on the screen.  As he watched them personally attack each other, he wondered if there is a better way we can disagree.  We talk the current political divide, how the language we use gives us permission to do extreme things, and what it takes to have productive conversations with the opposing side.

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