Thirteen years ago, former teacher and lawyer Duncan Payne had a heart attack. We talk about strange responses to emergencies, how things forever change, and the fears that emerge and vanish after being in the belly of the whale.
Additional Resources
- The Poetry Society: Jonah’s prayer by Aviva Dautch
- Smithsonian Magazine: “Could a Whale Accidentally Swallow You? It Is Possible”
- Joseph Campbell: A Hero with a Thousand Faces

Clouds-Wyoming by Duncan Payne