Thirteen years ago, former teacher and lawyer Duncan Payne had a heart attack. We talk about strange responses to emergencies, how things forever change, and the fears that emerge and vanish after being in the belly of the whale.

Additional Resources 

• The Poetry Society: Jonah’s prayer by Aviva Dautch
• Smithsonian Magazine: “Could a Whale Accidentally Swallow You? It Is Possible”
• Joseph Campbell: A Hero with a Thousand Faces